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Post by erictalmant on May 5, 2009 7:11:10 GMT -5
Week #19
#43 04 May 2009 (Mon A.M.) Training at Dave’s
*30 minutes out: Acetyl-L-Carnitine
20 minute general warm up:
Running
Walking-bouncing steps on toes (high knees)
Walking on the heels
Duck Walks
Lunge Walking
Twisting Torso Right and Left
Circular Movements of Arms and Torso
Jumping Exercises
Skipping Rope or jumping in place
Ballistic imitations of the upcoming lifts
1. Bench: 55% x 3; 60% x 3; 70% x 3; BENCH SHIRT (Estimated Max) 80% x 3 x 3 (18) .29, .25, .22/.26, .24, .24/.28, .25, .24
2. Squat: 50% x 5; 60% x 5; 70% x 5 x 4 (30) .5, .51, .5, .48, .48/.55, .53, .5, .48, .5/.55, .55, .53, .48, .46/.54, .55, .51, .48, .48
3. Wide Grip Bench (same as shirt grip): 55% x 4; 65% x 4; 70% x 4 x 4 (24) .45, .44, .41, .41/.43, .41, .42, .4/.46, .43, .43, .41/.44, .4, .43, .41
Training time: 2 hours 7 minutes
Training went much better than expected. I touched all of the 80% sets in the shirt and moved them very well. Here is a video, courtesy of Dave:
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Post by benburgess on May 5, 2009 12:58:36 GMT -5
Sweet that this is on here, that will make things much easier.  That is one hella loose shirt Eric! What size are you wearing? Our 75kg guys wear 38 or at the most 40. Can I also say... I think you are touching too low, tucking elbows too much and running away from the support. Generally if you are touching below the red IPF logo you are lowering the bar to where the shirt gives you less support and less kick off the chest. Lowering the bar 1.5" or so higher (somewhere between the yellow writing and top of the red logo) will be harder to touch but your elbows will be more flared here which means the chest plate and collar of the shirt will be stretched more which in turn means that it will rebound harder when you release the tension and press. I say this from experience...a lot of instructional vids and articles online are by multiply guys who obviously are bang into super tucking and touching really low - they can becasue of the rules and the mega support. I was trying to copy them for yonks in single ply before it clicked with me. Now i just tuck my elbows the minimum amount I need to get the touch, pause just under my pecs at the base of the sternum, and my shirt bench is improving no end. I hope that comes across as constructive rather than negative...I wish someone would have told ME that a year ago. |
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Post by joeldibattista on May 5, 2009 23:46:22 GMT -5
Haven't seen the video yet, but Ben makes a good point in general. I tuck quite a bit, but not nearly as much as some of the multi-ply lifters at my gym. It does cause you to touch lower, which is definitely a problem in IPF, but more importantly, you do loose support from the chest plate - I'm not 100% sure why they insist on tucking so much.
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Post by erictalmant on May 6, 2009 16:16:59 GMT -5
Week #19
#44 06 May 2009 (Wed A.M.)
*30 minutes out: Acetyl-L-Carnitine
20 minute general warm up:
Running
Walking-bouncing steps on toes (high knees)
Walking on the heels
Duck Walks
Lunge Walking
Twisting Torso Right and Left
Circular Movements of Arms and Torso
Jumping Exercises
Skipping Rope or jumping in place
Ballistic imitations of the upcoming lifts
1. Deadlift + (1) set of chain: 50% x 3; 60% x 3 x 2; 70% x 3 x 2; 75% x 3 x 3 (24) .24, .22, .20/.22, .2, .18/.22, .22, .20
2. Bench: 55% x 5; 65% x 5; 70% x 4 x 4 (26) .48, .46, .46, .46/.5, .5, .46, .44/.54, .46, .5, .46/.5, .48, .48, .48
3. Deadlift from Pin #3 (below knee): 50% x 3; 60% x 4 x 2; 70% x 3 x 2; 80% x 3 x 3 (29) .18, .24, .24/.20, .24, .24/.22, .26, .26
Training time: 2 hours 6 minutes
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Post by erictalmant on May 6, 2009 16:24:17 GMT -5
Sweet that this is on here, that will make things much easier. That is one hella loose shirt Eric! What size are you wearing? Our 75kg guys wear 38 or at the most 40. Can I also say... I think you are touching too low, tucking elbows too much and running away from the support. Generally if you are touching below the red IPF logo you are lowering the bar to where the shirt gives you less support and less kick off the chest. Lowering the bar 1.5" or so higher (somewhere between the yellow writing and top of the red logo) will be harder to touch but your elbows will be more flared here which means the chest plate and collar of the shirt will be stretched more which in turn means that it will rebound harder when you release the tension and press. I say this from experience...a lot of instructional vids and articles online are by multiply guys who obviously are bang into super tucking and touching really low - they can becasue of the rules and the mega support. I was trying to copy them for yonks in single ply before it clicked with me. Now i just tuck my elbows the minimum amount I need to get the touch, pause just under my pecs at the base of the sternum, and my shirt bench is improving no end. I hope that comes across as constructive rather than negative...I wish someone would have told ME that a year ago. Keep in mind that when I wear a tighter shirt that the logo is further down my torso. To give you an idea of how loose this shirt fit me, the IPF logo was right below my nipple line. In a tighter shirt that I wore 2 years ago, the IPF logo was at the top of my sternum-as you indicated. I actually was not tucking my elbows at all! Seriously, I was consciously forcing my elbows out the entire time. Ironically, on the reps that I kept the elbows out the most, I ran the slowest on the Tendo Unit. However, I understand everything that you are saying and will continue to play with things as we train in the shirt from week to week. However, I am not going to "overthink" training in this bench shirt right now. I am going to see what bar placement has me producing the most power and try to replicate that. I used to get into too much of the minutia of where to place the bar, how to place it, etc. that I forgot to just bench. We have 8 weeks and counting to get something to work for me, so we are going to use a very basic approach and probably loose gear to do it. Keep the feedback coming-it is greatly appreciated. I will continue to keep you guys posted on what is going on and what we are thinking. The weight that was on the bar was 300 pounds for the bench press. |
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Post by erictalmant on May 6, 2009 16:25:04 GMT -5
Haven't seen the video yet, but Ben makes a good point in general. I tuck quite a bit, but not nearly as much as some of the multi-ply lifters at my gym. It does cause you to touch lower, which is definitely a problem in IPF, but more importantly, you do loose support from the chest plate - I'm not 100% sure why they insist on tucking so much. Give it a look and let us know what you think. I will be putting on the squat suit next week... |
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Post by joeldibattista on May 7, 2009 18:41:46 GMT -5
I think you are touching too low, tucking elbows too much and running away from the support. Hmmm, I dunno about that Benny. I don't think Eric is tucking much at all and the touch doesn't look low to me - I think perhaps the IPF logo is in a different spot on the SS shirts? I think maybe it's the angle - I doubt anyone benches with their upper arms at 90 degrees to their torso? |
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Post by erictalmant on May 8, 2009 16:24:56 GMT -5
Week #19
#45 08 May 2009 (Fri A.M.)
*30 minutes out: Acetyl-L-Carnitine
20 minute general warm up:
Running
Walking-bouncing steps on toes (high knees)
Walking on the heels
Duck Walks
Lunge Walking
Twisting Torso Right and Left
Circular Movements of Arms and Torso
Jumping Exercises
Skipping Rope or jumping in place
Ballistic imitations of the upcoming lifts
1. Squat: 50% x 4; 60% x 3 x 2; 70% x 3; Knee Wraps 75% x 3 x 4 (25) .46, .42, .40/.44, .38, .36/.42, .38, .34/.42, .38, .38
2. Bench: 50% x 4; 60% x 4; 70% x 3; 75% x 3; 80% x 2 x 2; 85% x 1; 80% x 2 x 2; 75% x 3; 65% x 4; 55% x 4 (34)
3. Good mornings: 40% of squat x 5 x 5
Training time: 1 hour 42 minutes
Squat suit work on Monday.
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Post by erictalmant on May 8, 2009 16:26:10 GMT -5
I think you are touching too low, tucking elbows too much and running away from the support. Hmmm, I dunno about that Benny. I don't think Eric is tucking much at all and the touch doesn't look low to me - I think perhaps the IPF logo is in a different spot on the SS shirts? I think maybe it's the angle - I doubt anyone benches with their upper arms at 90 degrees to their torso? Joel and Ben are at odds!!! This will be good... |
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Post by erictalmant on May 11, 2009 18:26:48 GMT -5
Week #20
#46 11 May 2009 (Mon A.M.)
*30 minutes out: Acetyl-L-Carnitine
20 minute general warm up:
Running
Walking-bouncing steps on toes (high knees)
Walking on the heels
Duck Walks
Lunge Walking
Twisting Torso Right and Left
Circular Movements of Arms and Torso
Jumping Exercises
Skipping Rope or jumping in place
Ballistic imitations of the upcoming lifts
1. Squat: 231/3; 277/3; 323/2; Squat suit NXG+ 505/1; 534/1; 567/1; 575/2;575/2 (15)
2. Bench: 143/3;171/3;200/2;227/1;242/1;257/1;270/1;280/1(.11);270/1 (14)
Training time: 1 hour 47 minutes
#47 11 May 2009 (Mon P.M.)
20 minute general warm up:
Running
Walking-bouncing steps on toes (high knees)
Walking on the heels
Duck Walks
Lunge Walking
Twisting Torso Right and Left
Circular Movements of Arms and Torso
Jumping Exercises
Skipping Rope or jumping in place
Ballistic imitations of the upcoming lifts
1. Bench: 143/3;171/2;200/1;227/1;242/1;257/1;270/1;282/1
2. Squat: 230/3;277/2;322/1; Squat Suit NXG+ 505/1;534/1;567/1;600/1(.20)
Training time: 1 hour 25 minutes
Here is video of one of the 575 x 2 sets:
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Post by joeldibattista on May 12, 2009 4:11:30 GMT -5
Looked good Eric, strong stuff!
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Post by erictalmant on May 12, 2009 19:13:25 GMT -5
#48 12 May 2009 (Tues A.M.)
1. Squat: 230/3; 277/2; 322/1; 367/1; 415/1; 437/1; 453/1 (10)
Training time: 35 minutes
*Relaxation massage x 60 minutes. We worked on my eliminative zone since it was the one that showed up lacking a bit in today’s assessment.
*Meditation/Visualization x 15 minutes
#49 12 May 2009 (Tues P.M.)
1. Rev. Band Bench (tension kicks in only on the chest): 150/3; 185/2; 210/1; 240/1; 275/1; 285/1; 296/1; 285/1 (11)
Training time: 45 minutes
*Contrast shower x 10 minutes
*Subliminal meditation CD while going to bed
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Post by erictalmant on May 12, 2009 19:13:50 GMT -5
Looked good Eric, strong stuff! Thanks Joel! |
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Post by joeldibattista on May 13, 2009 0:55:22 GMT -5
I think your training (and my training partner's) shows that for the squat there is a direct correlation between your raw strength and equipped - something I'm really lacking.
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Post by benburgess on May 13, 2009 11:50:27 GMT -5
Week #20 1. Bench: 143/3;171/2;200/1;227/1;242/1;257/1;270/1;282/1 2. Squat: 230/3;277/2;322/1; Squat Suit NXG+ 505/1;534/1;567/1;600/1(.20) Training time: 1 hour 25 minutes Here is video of one of the 575 x 2 sets: I'm impressed Eric! 1st time in the suit that is quite naughty work i must say. I think me and Battista's conversation went something like: J- "did you see Eric's squat? It was bullit" B- " well he's no Wade Hooper but if he can sit back a little more in a tight Super NXG+ suit he will defo squat 300!" And I always was a bitter, miserable f***er!... 300 @ 75 is no mean feat. Are you having fun back in the kit? I like the simplicity of training raw but for me being in the gear is more fun and unpredictable. |
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Post by erictalmant on May 13, 2009 18:16:06 GMT -5
#50 13 May 2009 (Wed A.M.)
*Regular 20 minute warm up, etc.
1. Deadlift: 245/3; 335/2; 425/1; SUIT 515/1; 565/1; 587/1; 608/1; 655/1; 608/1 (12)
2. Wide Grip Bench: 135/3; 171/2; 200/2; 227/1; 242/1; 257/1; 268/1; 257/1 (12)
Training time: 1 hour 17 minutes
#51 13 May 2009 (Wed P.M.)
*Regular 20 minute warm up, etc.
1. Deadlift + 2 chains: 245/3; 335/2; 385/1; 425/1; 475/1; 497/1; 507/1; 475/1 (11)
Training time: 37 minutes
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Post by erictalmant on May 13, 2009 18:16:37 GMT -5
I think your training (and my training partner's) shows that for the squat there is a direct correlation between your raw strength and equipped - something I'm really lacking. I would have to agree with that. |
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Post by erictalmant on May 13, 2009 18:18:41 GMT -5
Week #20 1. Bench: 143/3;171/2;200/1;227/1;242/1;257/1;270/1;282/1 2. Squat: 230/3;277/2;322/1; Squat Suit NXG+ 505/1;534/1;567/1;600/1(.20) Training time: 1 hour 25 minutes Here is video of one of the 575 x 2 sets: I'm impressed Eric! 1st time in the suit that is quite naughty work i must say. I think me and Battista's conversation went something like: J- "did you see Eric's squat? It was bullit" B- " well he's no Wade Hooper but if he can sit back a little more in a tight Super NXG+ suit he will defo squat 300!" And I always was a bitter, miserable f***er!... 300 @ 75 is no mean feat. Are you having fun back in the kit? I like the simplicity of training raw but for me being in the gear is more fun and unpredictable. Yeah, I was surprised to be quite honest. I agree that I need to learn to sit back more, but I believe that will come in the next few weeks. The real test will be when I get a NXG+ Super that is made for me-because I am sure it will be tighter. I honestly have this suit that I am wearing on in probably 3 minutes-by myself. Am I having fun in the gear? I am scared to death! |
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Post by erictalmant on May 14, 2009 19:37:34 GMT -5
#52 14 May 2009 (Thurs P.M.)
*Regular 20 minute warm up, etc.
1. Deadlift from deficit: 225/3; 315/2; 405/1; 455/1; 477/1; 495/1; 516/1 (10)
Training time: 40 minutes
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Post by erictalmant on May 15, 2009 19:48:00 GMT -5
#53 15 May 2009 (Fri A.M.)
*Regular 20 minute warm up, etc.
1. Bench: 150/3; 172/2; 200/1; 239/1; SHIRT: 300/1; 321/1; 338/1; 355/1 (11)
2. Squat: 239/3; 276/2; 333/1; KNEE WRAPS: 416/1; 442/1; 468/1; 495/1 (10)
Training time: Not exactly sure; less than 2 hours
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