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Post by joeldibattista on May 27, 2009 19:22:34 GMT -5
300kg pull @ 75. Massive!
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Post by bigarm19 on May 27, 2009 23:59:42 GMT -5
Do you ever breath? Breathing flows oxygen and force feeds blood to muscle groups assisting the lift. Why don't you breath?
Is it a shirted thing? What if you were doing a set of 10 or 15 reps? I'm not trying to be a smart butt here. I really am baffled about the lack of breathing. Please don't be offended.
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Post by robwhite on May 29, 2009 5:04:15 GMT -5
Mark Rippetoe, of Starting Strength fame, is one authority who recommends holding your breath throughout the rep on the bench as “it provides support for the chest. This takes the form of increased tightness throughout the thoracic cavity due to the increase in pressure provided by the big, held breath. A tight ribcage allows for a more efficient transfer of power to the bar by the muscles attached to it when they contract.” In fact, he suggests up to 5 reps at a time can be done using this Valsalva maneuvere, before you take a mini-breath and top up the tidal volume of air in your lungs. I've never tried it, but there are some big benchers in my gym (240 kg + ) who use it with great success.
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Post by bigarm19 on May 29, 2009 11:25:23 GMT -5
Mark Rippetoe, of Starting Strength fame, is one authority who recommends holding your breath throughout the rep on the bench as “it provides support for the chest. This takes the form of increased tightness throughout the thoracic cavity due to the increase in pressure provided by the big, held breath. A tight ribcage allows for a more efficient transfer of power to the bar by the muscles attached to it when they contract.” In fact, he suggests up to 5 reps at a time can be done using this Valsalva maneuvere, before you take a mini-breath and top up the tidal volume of air in your lungs. I've never tried it, but there are some big benchers in my gym (240 kg + ) who use it with great success. Just for the sake of argument here. Nothing else. If you hold your breath. Your heart rate drops slightly do to lack of oxygen. If your body is lacking high percentage blood flow how does the muscle recuperate during the lift? Stabilizing the chest in this method will and does bring the built up lactic acid to a stand sill. As I have read. Since you can not avoid lactic acid during the chest exercise, still you can displace it. Breathing helps this during the exercise. Also force feeding muscles blood and oxygen makes them expand. An expanding muscle increases strength. Holding your breath will expand the and stabilize the rib cage. At the same time though your chest muscles will deplete do to lack of oxygen. Now of your doing a one rep lift. I can only say for the chest part, yes it will keep it expanded. BUT. Once you are past the chest portion of the lift, you don't need it any more. So why not breath and feed the other muscles? As for not breathing in reps. If you breath can't you reload the rib cage with clean fresh oxygen on each set? Replenishing and fortifying the muscle groups. Not to mention hydrate the muscles. One more benefit to breathing. When you are grinding out a lift, weather it be in sets or max. Why is it and has it been proven time and time again rapid breathing will help you move through the lift? Not to mention. The lack of breathing is horribly bad for your brain. physiologically and physically. The face turns red and the veins pop out do to the lack of oxygen to the brain. Physiologically. If your brain is freaking do to the lack of oxygen you are taking away the ability of your brain talking your muscle groups in to pushing harder. Not only that. If your eyes are bulging out. How can you trick your brain in to thinking it can do more than it can? Believe it or not. The brain can be tricked into telling the muscles they can do more than they can or are willing to do at that particular time. Just by looking at your dominate hand. |
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Post by bigarm19 on May 29, 2009 12:20:30 GMT -5
Just watched a boat load of Ripptoe's u-tube video. Three things I got out of it. He compares apples to oranges when he does decide to explain himself. Other wise it's because I said so.
He goes on to explain these exercises are not for power lifters they are for general strength gain. Anybody that disagrees with his method is an idiot. The weird thing I watched was his explanation of why we should hold our breath while we bench.
We run out of gas. Put the car in natural. Take a deep breath, put our shoulder into the door jam and push. While holding our breath. Yes I agree. But what does that have to do with the bench? That's a horrible analogy. Pushing a car relates to more of the squat or leg press. Nothing like the bench. When I push a car. Usually a FORD ;D. I use my legs not my chest, or arms.
Remember earlier I agreed with holding the breath through a squat or dead lift rep. I still do. Except I believe in fresh air per rep. I will continue to look for better explanations from Mark Rippetoe. Until now he has proven nothing to me about power lifting..
He also states, and I quote " I don't know a lot about the power lifting bench press or pretend to." Now. Am I as a power lifter going to take advice from a general strength coach that admits to having very little if any knowledge about the power lifting bench? There for I will continue to breath during the bench movement until some body with great knowledge. More than myself or more than Lee Hayward comes along and proves beyond a doubt. Holding the breath during a bench press is the best method.
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Post by erictalmant on May 29, 2009 18:09:13 GMT -5
#62 29 May 2009 (Fri A.M.)
1. Squat: 230/3; 277/2; 322/1; 365/1; TITAN SUPER CUSTOM: 495/feeling suit; 560/1; 600/1 (10)
Training time: 50 minutes
2. Bench: 145/3; 172/2; 200/1; A/S TITAN SUPER KATANA: 333/1; 345/1; 345/1; JOHNNY’S OLD S/S TITAN KATANA: 345/1; 345/1(11)
Training time: Not sure; switched shirts, etc.
#63 29 May 2009 (Fri P.M.)
1. Deadlift + 2 chains: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1; 100+% (PR) x 1; 91% x 1 (10)
Training time: 30 minutes
Totals for week #22 Fundamental Lifts (F.L.) = 117
The squat in the new suit was solid. I taped both the singles, and will just have to upload them when I get time. I ran .34 on the 600, which tells us that the 600 is about a 90% rep. Nevertheless, for the meet on June 13th the plan is to open at 562, then 59X, and hopefully finish with 622. If those go good, then we will push it a bit more at the USPF Nationals on July 3rd.
The bench press was a different story. My form was really poor today, and on top of that the A/S Super Katana-at least today-did not work well for me. My groove must have been totally wrong, because this weight came right down and felt like a ton of bricks coming off of my chest. We then took it off and put Johnny’s old shirt on (the one I have been training in) and then did a solid single with 345. I will probably open somewhere around there if my left arm is not too bad.
The evening workout was me pissed at how the shirted bench press session went, so I pulled a PR with 2 chains in the deadlift.
I don’t know how well we might do in two weeks, but I hope to do well in July. Lifting in equipment and perfecting the technique it takes to be successful takes time and patience; both of which are in short supply right now for me. Coupled with the fact my left arm is not 100% makes it an uphill climb for these two upcoming geared meets. Nevertheless, we will press on and see what we can do.
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Post by erictalmant on May 29, 2009 18:10:53 GMT -5
Do you ever breath? Breathing flows oxygen and force feeds blood to muscle groups assisting the lift. Why don't you breath? Is it a shirted thing? What if you were doing a set of 10 or 15 reps? I'm not trying to be a smart butt here. I really am baffled about the lack of breathing. Please don't be offended. I am not offended at all! I feel much tighter when I keep my air. Yes, if I was doing higher reps I would certainly want to breathe. Actually, keeping my air is one of the things that Wade Hooper worked on with me.. Hope that helps. |
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Post by erictalmant on May 29, 2009 18:11:37 GMT -5
Mark Rippetoe, of Starting Strength fame, is one authority who recommends holding your breath throughout the rep on the bench as “it provides support for the chest. This takes the form of increased tightness throughout the thoracic cavity due to the increase in pressure provided by the big, held breath. A tight ribcage allows for a more efficient transfer of power to the bar by the muscles attached to it when they contract.” In fact, he suggests up to 5 reps at a time can be done using this Valsalva maneuvere, before you take a mini-breath and top up the tidal volume of air in your lungs. I've never tried it, but there are some big benchers in my gym (240 kg + ) who use it with great success. That is pretty much exactly what Wade Hooper was telling us. |
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Post by erictalmant on May 29, 2009 18:13:47 GMT -5
Just watched a boat load of Ripptoe's u-tube video. Three things I got out of it. He compares apples to oranges when he does decide to explain himself. Other wise it's because I said so. He goes on to explain these exercises are not for power lifters they are for general strength gain. Anybody that disagrees with his method is an idiot. The weird thing I watched was his explanation of why we should hold our breath while we bench. We run out of gas. Put the car in natural. Take a deep breath, put our shoulder into the door jam and push. While holding our breath. Yes I agree. But what does that have to do with the bench? That's a horrible analogy. Pushing a car relates to more of the squat or leg press. Nothing like the bench. When I push a car. Usually a FORD ;D. I use my legs not my chest, or arms. Remember earlier I agreed with holding the breath through a squat or dead lift rep. I still do. Except I believe in fresh air per rep. I will continue to look for better explanations from Mark Rippetoe. Until now he has proven nothing to me about power lifting.. He also states, and I quote " I don't know a lot about the power lifting bench press or pretend to." Now. Am I as a power lifter going to take advice from a general strength coach that admits to having very little if any knowledge about the power lifting bench? There for I will continue to breath during the bench movement until some body with great knowledge. More than myself or more than Lee Hayward comes along and proves beyond a doubt. Holding the breath during a bench press is the best method. Bill, with a bench as good as yours I am sure you have found what works for you. Probably just a case of different strokes for different folks. |
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Post by erictalmant on May 29, 2009 18:14:50 GMT -5
300kg pull @ 75. Massive! If it is not done in a meet, it does not count. I am weighing 78 kilos right at the moment. I won't cut weight for the meet in June, but I will for the meet in July. |
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Post by bigarm19 on May 29, 2009 20:49:05 GMT -5
Just watched a boat load of Ripptoe's u-tube video. Three things I got out of it. He compares apples to oranges when he does decide to explain himself. Other wise it's because I said so. He goes on to explain these exercises are not for power lifters they are for general strength gain. Anybody that disagrees with his method is an idiot. The weird thing I watched was his explanation of why we should hold our breath while we bench. We run out of gas. Put the car in natural. Take a deep breath, put our shoulder into the door jam and push. While holding our breath. Yes I agree. But what does that have to do with the bench? That's a horrible analogy. Pushing a car relates to more of the squat or leg press. Nothing like the bench. When I push a car. Usually a FORD ;D. I use my legs not my chest, or arms. Remember earlier I agreed with holding the breath through a squat or dead lift rep. I still do. Except I believe in fresh air per rep. I will continue to look for better explanations from Mark Rippetoe. Until now he has proven nothing to me about power lifting.. He also states, and I quote " I don't know a lot about the power lifting bench press or pretend to." Now. Am I as a power lifter going to take advice from a general strength coach that admits to having very little if any knowledge about the power lifting bench? There for I will continue to breath during the bench movement until some body with great knowledge. More than myself or more than Lee Hayward comes along and proves beyond a doubt. Holding the breath during a bench press is the best method. Bill, with a bench as good as yours I am sure you have found what works for you. Probably just a case of different strokes for different folks. I totally agree. All have there own groove. What works for them. Still the question. Why does your trainer have you hold your breath? Hay if it works I want it. Even if it only gives me 5 lbs. I want it! I don't want it to seem like I'm throwing a fit or saying hey you don't do it my way so your wrong. All I'm doing is stirring the pot. Actually I feel it is a great topic for all to join in. It would be neat to see all the variances of breathing techniques. Do you think you could get a clear answer on the reasoning for the breath being held. I really would like to know. |
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 1, 2009 19:33:50 GMT -5
Week #23
#64 01 June 2009 (Mon A.M.)
1. Squat: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; KNEE WRAPS: 80% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1 (9)
2. Wide Grip Bench: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; BENCH SHIRT: 77% x 2 x 3; 80% x 2 x 3; 84% x 2 (20)
Total training time: 1 hour 15 minutes
#65 01 June 2009 (Mon P.M.)
1. Deadlift: 310/3; 375/2; 435/1; 496/1; 527/1; 558/1; 590/1; 640/1 (11)
Total training time: 25 minutes
Here is video of the 640:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gcCO3HD4-4&feature=channel_page
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Post by Phillip Wylie on Jun 2, 2009 10:17:29 GMT -5
Nice deadlift, Eric!
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Post by joeldibattista on Jun 2, 2009 22:18:03 GMT -5
Eric, does Hooper still use Sheiko programming?
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 3, 2009 16:52:49 GMT -5
#66 03 June 2009 (Wed P.M.)
*Regular 20 minute warm-up
1. Squat: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 80% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1 (9)
Training time: 18 minutes
2. Wide Grip Bench: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 80% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1 (9)
Training time: 17 minutes
3. Deadlift: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; TITAN VELOCITY DL SUIT: 80% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1 (9)
Training time: 30 minutes
Here is video of the 90% equipped deadlift:
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 3, 2009 16:59:29 GMT -5
Bill, with a bench as good as yours I am sure you have found what works for you. Probably just a case of different strokes for different folks. I totally agree. All have there own groove. What works for them. Still the question. Why does your trainer have you hold your breath? Hay if it works I want it. Even if it only gives me 5 lbs. I want it! I don't want it to seem like I'm throwing a fit or saying hey you don't do it my way so your wrong. All I'm doing is stirring the pot. Actually I feel it is a great topic for all to join in. It would be neat to see all the variances of breathing techniques. Do you think you could get a clear answer on the reasoning for the breath being held. I really would like to know. Breath holding increases the pressure in your abdomen and supports the lower spine. Without breath holding, far great er pressure is exerted on vulnerable structures of the lumbar spine i.e. disks and ligaments. Since your spine is more stable the rest of the skeleton is more stable; the muscles are more stable; and a more stable structure is more conducive to higher force output. |
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 3, 2009 16:59:56 GMT -5
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 3, 2009 17:00:18 GMT -5
Eric, does Hooper still use Sheiko programming? For the most part, yes. |
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 5, 2009 16:54:27 GMT -5
#67 05 June 2009 (Fri A.M.)
1. Squat: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; SUPER CENTURION: 80% x 1 to seat suit; 90% x 1 x 2 (9)
Training time: 40 minutes
2. Wide grip bench: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; LOOSE KATANA S/S: 283/3; 305/2; 316/1; 316/1; 316/1 (14)
Training time: 60 minutes
#68 05 June 2009 (Fri P.M.)
1. Deadlift + 2 chains: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 83% x 1; 90% x 1 (8)
Training time: 15 minutes
Totals for week #23 Fundamental Lifts (F.L.) = 98
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 8, 2009 21:27:05 GMT -5
Week #24
#69 08 June 2009 (Mon A.M.)
1. Squat:50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 80% x 1 KNEE WRAPS: 80% x 1; 85% x 1 (9)
Training time: 28 minutes
2. Wide Grip Bench: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 80% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1 (9)
Training time: 13 minutes
3. Deadlift: 50% x 3; 60% x 2; 70% x 1; 80% x 1; 85% x 1; 90% x 1 (9)
Training time: 17 minutes
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