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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2009 12:13:23 GMT -5
Did anyone try to split a cycle like #29 into 4/5 days a week instead of 3?
Is there an obvious reason to why this would be a bad idea? I thinking as a substitute for not being able to train twice a day on the three days.
Is total volume not what matters?
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Post by mccaulleyg on May 16, 2009 16:05:47 GMT -5
I would say your recovery time may be compromised if you are hitting your main lifts 5 times a week, even at smaller volumes each day. It is nice to only deadlift once a week, squat twice, I like the 3 day split, then you have time to do GPP on the off days. How do you like that reasoning?
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Post by benburgess on May 17, 2009 3:40:55 GMT -5
I thinking as a substitute for not being able to train twice a day on the three days. Why would you need to train twice a day? #29 is a once a day training cycle. Am i misunderstanding you here? |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2009 10:09:56 GMT -5
I thinking as a substitute for not being able to train twice a day on the three days. Why would you need to train twice a day? #29 is a once a day training cycle. Am i misunderstanding you here? Aha, Ive been told that Sheiko originally was meant to be trained twice a day. But if this isn't the case then I am the one misunderstanding. The theory was that the increased frequency leads to more/better "neural recovery". |
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Post by benburgess on May 18, 2009 11:28:40 GMT -5
Why would you need to train twice a day? #29 is a once a day training cycle. Am i misunderstanding you here? Aha, Ive been told that Sheiko originally was meant to be trained twice a day. But if this isn't the case then I am the one misunderstanding. The theory was that the increased frequency leads to more/better "neural recovery". Sucess wit sheiko is definately affected by the factors you mention but it is carefully set up for the individual lifter. You have a 'rating' that is given to you by your total...there is a chart here: asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=54610&tid=3That is for raw lifts, in kg. If you dont get the CMS rating then you are a 'rated' lifter. There are breakdowns of the 'rated' lifter stage somewhere too. There ARE sheiko cycles that have twice a day training in them. They will be for lifters rated over MS at a minimum, i.e. badboys with bullit conditioning. Have a read round the site you will get a feel for sheiko training soon enough. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 16:06:14 GMT -5
I think there is no reason why it could work.
If you maintain the same volume.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 8:30:48 GMT -5
29 is the "easiest" of all the sheiko routines. I don't believe that there is no reason that this could not be completed in one session.
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Post by davebates on May 19, 2009 22:47:52 GMT -5
Did anyone try to split a cycle like #29 into 4/5 days a week instead of 3? Is there an obvious reason to why this would be a bad idea? I thinking as a substitute for not being able to train twice a day on the three days. Is total volume not what matters? Why do you feel the need to break up program?
It can all be done in one session.
You do not need to train twice a day. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2009 4:44:47 GMT -5
sorry i wrote badly:
splitting the 29: there is no reason why it could NOT work.
When i was at UNiversity i sometime train 2 x days sheiko style and i had the best feeling of my life.
If you have time problem (work family exetera) could be an idea. An athlete in my team got at maximum 40 minute to train (job and something else). So he train 5 to 6 times a week, for 40 minute, always in a distribuited style training (olimpic/russian theory). In this way he do his best of ever.
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 4, 2009 16:26:59 GMT -5
sorry i wrote badly: splitting the 29: there is no reason why it could NOT work. When i was at UNiversity i sometime train 2 x days sheiko style and i had the best feeling of my life. If you have time problem (work family exetera) could be an idea. An athlete in my team got at maximum 40 minute to train (job and something else). So he train 5 to 6 times a week, for 40 minute, always in a distribuited style training (olimpic/russian theory). In this way he do his best of ever. I think Ado is correct; but so is the "other side". As any lifter at CMS and below needs the conditioning in the way that the Sheiko templates are set up, then I would say that if at all possible try not to split the routines up. Do them as they are written. However, if one decides to split them up it is certainly not the end of the world. It just may not build the mental and physical attributes needed to properly prepare oneself for competition; but it certainly can be done. |
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