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Post by robwhite on Apr 7, 2009 8:34:12 GMT -5
I noticed on the Core Premise part of the HealthExcel site www.healthexcel.com/docs/_core1.html they have added a 10th FHC - Neurotransmitter Imbalance. In Mr Wolcotts original MT book there was only 9 FHC's - nice to see the system is keeping updated with new findings (talking of keeping it updated, i really feel the Blood Type FHC should be updated to be based upon Dr Laura Powers work instead of D' Adamo's, as i get the impression Mr Wolcott feels her work is more scientifically credible, and many others would agree). Eric, i presume this is based upon the Neurogistics system of analysis you discussed here asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=91062&tid= . How important is this FHC in relation to the others? |
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Post by erictalmant on Apr 8, 2009 7:06:27 GMT -5
I noticed on the Core Premise part of the HealthExcel site www.healthexcel.com/docs/_core1.html they have added a 10th FHC - Neurotransmitter Imbalance. In Mr Wolcotts original MT book there was only 9 FHC's - nice to see the system is keeping updated with new findings (talking of keeping it updated, i really feel the Blood Type FHC should be updated to be based upon Dr Laura Powers work instead of D' Adamo's, as i get the impression Mr Wolcott feels her work is more scientifically credible, and many others would agree). Eric, i presume this is based upon the Neurogistics system of analysis you discussed here asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=91062&tid= . How important is this FHC in relation to the others? Rob: Actually, there are now 11 Fundamental Homeostatic Controls  I will be putting some more information on here regarding the 11th FHC, so stay tuned. The blood type FHC has been replaced with the Signet MRT Test and the BioTek IgE Elisa Test. Yes, the 10th FHC is based upon Neurogistics neurotransmitter testing and it becomes *very important* when some of the symptoms of a client seem to persist or not improve. It really does require proper application, and that is where certified MT advisors come into play. Every client is a case-by-case basis, but in my experience one of the prime candidates for neurotransmitter testing is someone who continues to experience sleep problems despite being on their MT plan, proper supplementation, removing blocking factors, etc. for several months. However, there are of course other applications. |
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Post by robwhite on Apr 8, 2009 7:48:18 GMT -5
An 11th FHC? Intriguing.
So HealthExcel are doing away with blood type as a FHC all together? Interesting. I can understand why they are replacing them with proper IgE testing, as this will be far more accurate and personalised. I remember Poliquin stating that MT needs use more clinical tests tlike these to make it more accepted, although i think he recommended using the ION Panel test. However, a major downside is the cost of getting these kind of tests done may make Metabolic Typing prohibatively expensive for some.
Personally i think the Constitutional Elements FHC is another that should be done away with, because it is clearly the least scientifically-verifiable, and it seems the only element of that FHC that IS verifiable is the 'body type' aspect of it, which is overlapping into the Endocrine Type FHC
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Post by erictalmant on Apr 9, 2009 8:18:43 GMT -5
An 11th FHC? Intriguing. So HealthExcel are doing away with blood type as a FHC all together? Interesting. I can understand why they are replacing them with proper IgE testing, as this will be far more accurate and personalised. I remember Poliquin stating that MT needs use more clinical tests tlike these to make it more accepted, although i think he recommended using the ION Panel test. However, a major downside is the cost of getting these kind of tests done may make Metabolic Typing prohibatively expensive for some. Personally i think the Constitutional Elements FHC is another that should be done away with, because it is clearly the least scientifically-verifiable, and it seems the only element of that FHC that IS verifiable is the 'body type' aspect of it, which is overlapping into the Endocrine Type FHC All good points and all noted, Rob. Blood Types – MT has been tracking blood types since their introduction by James D’Adamo in his book One Man’s Food… in 1980. Clinically speaking, there is no correlation between Blood Type O’s as carnivores and Blood Type A’s as “vegetarians.” We have seen just as many Blood Type A’s get well on a carnivore diet as we have seen Blood Type O’s get well on a “vegetarian” diet. Although blood type has a minor but useful role to play in Metabolic Typing®, it is really a passive factor that can help determine what foods not to eat-as evidenced by the much more complete works of Laura Power. But the really critical factors that define a Metabolic Type® concern the dynamic, fundamental, regulatory systems that involve the creation, maintenance and control of energy – the ANS and the OS. That is why Bill focuses the most on them. |
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Post by robwhite on Apr 9, 2009 8:57:40 GMT -5
Yeah, i have heard that many 'Type A's' do well on a high protein, high meat diet. I have looked at Dr Power's stuff after you mentioned her to me a while back, and she does seem to show much more verifiable immune response correlations between' avoid' foods / drinks, and blood types, and doesnt dip into the realms of conjecture like 90% of Peter D'Adamo's observations do. Rather than do away with the blood type FHC, it would be good if blood type stayed as a 'minor' FHC that is still considered with MT clients, revised to use Dr Power's clinical correlations between blood type and serum immune responses instead, as from what i've read on her site, there are definate health implications to consuming foods that react strongly with a client's blood type. I notice she also found differences in the serum immune reactions as the subjects aged, and also between gender, so if blood type FHC recommendations could consider that it would be even more valuable. I also noticed that Dr Power and Dr Nardi's work on Body / Endocrine Types has produced a more in-depth analysis of the Endocrine FHC, resulting in a Dominant Endocrine Type, and also with Secondary type characteristics. Again, updating the Endocrine Type FHC from Dr Abravanel's original system to take account of Dr Power and Dr Nardi's findings would be useful. Totally agree that metabolic oxidation rates and ANS imbalances are still the key factors. Still interested to hear what the 11th FHC .... |
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Post by erictalmant on Apr 9, 2009 12:15:15 GMT -5
Yeah, i have heard that many 'Type A's' do well on a high protein, high meat diet. I have looked at Dr Power's stuff after you mentioned her to me a while back, and she does seem to show much more verifiable immune response correlations between' avoid' foods / drinks, and blood types, and doesnt dip into the realms of conjecture like 90% of Peter D'Adamo's observations do. Rather than do away with the blood type FHC, it would be good if blood type stayed as a 'minor' FHC that is still considered with MT clients, revised to use Dr Power's clinical correlations between blood type and serum immune responses instead, as from what i've read on her site, there are definate health implications to consuming foods that react strongly with a client's blood type. I notice she also found differences in the serum immune reactions as the subjects aged, and also between gender, so if blood type FHC recommendations could consider that it would be even more valuable. I also noticed that Dr Power and Dr Nardi's work on Body / Endocrine Types has produced a more in-depth analysis of the Endocrine FHC, resulting in a Dominant Endocrine Type, and also with Secondary type characteristics. Again, updating the Endocrine Type FHC from Dr Abravanel's original system to take account of Dr Power and Dr Nardi's findings would be useful. Totally agree that metabolic oxidation rates and ANS imbalances are still the key factors. Still interested to hear what the 11th FHC .... It is not that the blood type FHC has been "done away with" per se. We now simply use the Signet MRT test and the BioTek ELISA tests because there is no speculation involved. |
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Post by robwhite on Apr 10, 2009 17:29:47 GMT -5
Can i ask what the difference between the MRT and the ELISA tests are, and, from a MT Advisor perspective, the case for using one over the other?
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Post by erictalmant on Apr 13, 2009 7:22:20 GMT -5
Can i ask what the difference between the MRT and the ELISA tests are, and, from a MT Advisor perspective, the case for using one over the other? In a nutshell, there are four types of hypersensitivity reactions. If you have read Laura Power's work you will know these as type I (anaphylactic, or actual allergy), type II (cytotoxic), type III (immune complex), and type IV (delayed type). The MRT measures the outcome of pretty much all non IgE (type I) mediated immune pathways. The ELISA test looks at IgE (type I) and some IgG (some type II). Sit tight, because I am working on an article right now that covers the ins and outs of each; but this should give you an idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2009 16:43:38 GMT -5
Eric,
Have you finished this article? Where can it be found. Thanks
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Post by erictalmant on Jun 24, 2009 8:10:08 GMT -5
Eric, Have you finished this article? Where can it be found. Thanks Hello Jared. No, I have not finished the article. As soon as I publish it, I will be sure to post a link here on the site ,as well as at my home web site. I have a few other projects that have deadlines and I hope to put this article up sometime in July. |
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