Performance Enhancing Drugs Usage

[superaveragebro]

My aim in starting this thread is to get a feel of how many Shieko followers are drug users and how many are clean. I am a drug-free lifter and this system has given me great results. I'm in my 13th year of lifting and in my 4th year of competing in powerlifting and I'm making gains from meet to meet with this system, without resorting to performance enhancing drugs. I do not want to demonise these drugs at all, since I beleive they are a necessity at mid to top level in every sport.

[0ni]

Never taken PED's but this is what I feel about PED usage when training:

There is a lot of advice out there as to when, from "you should lift X amount" to "you should have been training for X time" and it all seemed very arbitrary to me - and to an extent it is. I never understood why people picked these because of this, as if when you achieve the above you're magically able to take steroids and benefit from them. I had a big long think about this and what the criteria for taking steroids REALLY were and this is what I came up with:

When you're a natural trainee, your training will either work or it will not . Being natural allows you to figure out what works in your training. What exercises, rep ranges, volumes, intensities etc work best for you. "I've stalled in this lift so should I eat more, make a form adjustment, do a high volume cycle, change the frequency" and so on.

If you start using hormones before this point, you do not learn this. You never have the chance to. Your strength and mass stops increasing on your 500mg of testosterone a week, so what do you do? You think instead "should I up the dose? maybe add an oral? change of steroids?" while if you had waited until you're more experienced you would have just done the damn thing that got you out of your rut when you were an unhormonized trainee.

I think this is very unclear for a lot of people. Lots of people will know this inside but they are not very good at putting their thoughts onto paper for whatever reason and invariably say something like "you are not ready". I think this is a bad approach as it doesn't explain to the young un's WHY this is a bad idea, as well as prohibition being incredibly bad from a psychological standpoint because if you tell someone not to do something without giving a damned good reason they will just go and do it anyway

[superaveragebro]

Very well said. This is why I don't beleive in decriminalising this stuff. There needs to be more education on these things, and on training in general. They go hand in hand. When the authorities get this thing in order, steroids usage will go down. They should put their money on education instead of on law enforcement.

But anyway, I would like those who use PED and use Shieko methods to come forward and voice their opinion.

Oct 3, 2012 5:37:44 GMT -5 0ni said:

Never taken PED's but this is what I feel about PED usage when training:

There is a lot of advice out there as to when, from "you should lift X amount" to "you should have been training for X time" and it all seemed very arbitrary to me - and to an extent it is. I never understood why people picked these because of this, as if when you achieve the above you're magically able to take steroids and benefit from them. I had a big long think about this and what the criteria for taking steroids REALLY were and this is what I came up with:

When you're a natural trainee, your training will either work or it will not . Being natural allows you to figure out what works in your training. What exercises, rep ranges, volumes, intensities etc work best for you. "I've stalled in this lift so should I eat more, make a form adjustment, do a high volume cycle, change the frequency" and so on.

If you start using hormones before this point, you do not learn this. You never have the chance to. Your strength and mass stops increasing on your 500mg of testosterone a week, so what do you do? You think instead "should I up the dose? maybe add an oral? change of steroids?" while if you had waited until you're more experienced you would have just done the damn thing that got you out of your rut when you were an unhormonized trainee.

I think this is very unclear for a lot of people. Lots of people will know this inside but they are not very good at putting their thoughts onto paper for whatever reason and invariably say something like "you are not ready". I think this is a bad approach as it doesn't explain to the young un's WHY this is a bad idea, as well as prohibition being incredibly bad from a psychological standpoint because if you tell someone not to do something without giving a damned good reason they will just go and do it anyway

[biglarge]

I've had multiple ask me through out the years if ive taken steroids (i haven't).


I cant think of a bigger compliment, albeit unintentional.


Since i'll never be "world-class" I see no point and would imagine taking PED's would take away my sense of accomplishment.