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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 21:50:56 GMT -5
I decided to take the plunge and participate in my first meet, a Deadlift/Bench competition at the end of October. This is also my first time running Sheiko, and so far (2 weeks in) love it.
I have 10 weeks until the meet and was trying to figure out how exactly to peak. My plan right now is as follows:
weeks 1-4 #29 (finishing up week 2 right now) weeks 5-8 #37 weeks 9-10 weeks 3 and 4 of #32
Look good? My concern is that by only running two weeks of the peaking cycle I'm not giving my body enough time to supercompensate. I ran 16 weeks of Juggernaut Training prior to this (fairly low volume powerlifting cycle; think 5/3/1 plus block periodization) so the volume is a bit of a shock to me right now.
Relevant stats:
6'3" 230 Squat 405 Bench 295 Deadlift 455x3
Thanks for any help you vets can throw my way Dan
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Post by 0ni on Aug 23, 2012 1:40:31 GMT -5
At your level of strength I would continue training as normal until 2 weeks out. 2 weeks out start running the last 2 weeks of sheiko. The Monday before the meet, take your openers if you wish. I perform better if I do this but not everyone does. A two week taper should be fine
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 10:59:30 GMT -5
When you say " 2 weeks out start running the last 2 weeks of sheiko" what do you mean? Proceed according to my outlined plan?
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Post by superaveragebro on Aug 24, 2012 14:24:33 GMT -5
I would do 4 wks 29. 1-3 wks 37 and last 3 wks of 32 to be on the safe side since you have no experience to shieko and since you are not accustomed to such high volume. Should be good. I know guys who take their openers on the week of comp. I used to do that prior to using Shieko. I do not do anymore and I'm doing fine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 13:00:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the help guys; I'm gonna play it safe and go with superaveragebro's advice and take the extra week to taper off. I'll check back in with results.
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Post by 0ni on Aug 26, 2012 23:44:27 GMT -5
Good luck! And yeah, reading again my suggestion was the plan you already had
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 22:45:09 GMT -5
Question about progression:
While I won't say that #29 up to this point has been easy, it hasn't been as challenging as I had expected. I'm considering upping my maxes by 10 pounds for when I run #37. Is the additional volume that #37 provides enough of a stimulus for progression, such that the increase in maxes would be unnecessary?
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Post by joeldibattista on Aug 31, 2012 2:41:53 GMT -5
No probably not. If #29 wasn't really challening, then I woud up my maxes a bit. #37 has more volume, but slightly less intensity, so it should be similar in terms of overall stress.
The other option would be to run #30 with your current maxes and see how you go- that one is a killer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 21:56:25 GMT -5
Guys,
Thanks for the help up to this point, I really appreciate it. My training (especially for squat and bench) is going great.
The trouble at this point is my deadlift. After finishing #29 using a 475 as my max deadlift (which I feel was a bit conservative, considering I tripled only 20 pounds less) I boosted my max to 500 to make the work sets more challenging during #37. Problem is, weights I have smashed on other programs are giving me more trouble than I feel they should.
E.g. today I did 5 triples with 375 (75%). I can do 375 touch and go for about 16 reps when fresh, but the sets today were a bit tougher than I expected. Granted, I did them deadstop, and I could probably just be dealing with residual fatigue, which after typing all this out seems clear to me. I guess I just want to get some opinions from the vets.
Thanks
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Post by 0ni on Sept 20, 2012 2:08:30 GMT -5
Sheiko really f**ks with my mind. It uses accumulated fatigue so you can't really tell if you're getting stronger until you taper down to peak. For example I find 9x3x80% fairly hard at the moment but it's a weight (when fresh) I would be able to rep for 10 quite easily. That being said I would only increase maxes from cycle to cycle by 3% or less
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Post by superaveragebro on Sept 23, 2012 14:27:25 GMT -5
With Shieko you usually feel like shit and since weights are rarely over 85% you think you're getting weaker rather than stronger. But beleive me, once you taper down and go for the meet you'll be surprising yourself how much strength you have gained.
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