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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2011 19:31:19 GMT -5
Unless I'm mistaken, the pulls to knees are actually full rom deadlifts with a pause at the knee, because most people's sticking point is around the knee. Has anyone ever tried pausing lower, like a few inches off the floor, as a remedy for a poor deadlift start?
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Post by joeldibattista on Sept 6, 2011 1:04:55 GMT -5
I don't believe they are a full ROM deadlift with a pause - I have seen some Sheiko plans where he distinguishes between pause deadlifts and deadlifts to knees.
I would say you should pause at your weak point.
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Post by benburgess on Sept 7, 2011 14:00:11 GMT -5
I pause mine about mid shin, as that's my weakest point. I always finish the pull after the pause
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 21:36:00 GMT -5
according to wade hooper who stated that he was told this by sheiko himself, the pulls to knees are meant to be paused at the knee and then finished. Also when you get good at pausing below your knee your are supposed to add a second pause during the lift.
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Post by kgm on Sept 7, 2011 23:26:10 GMT -5
according to wade hooper who stated that he was told this by sheiko himself, the pulls to knees are meant to be paused at the knee and then finished. Also when you get good at pausing below your knee your are supposed to add a second pause during the lift. When you are pausing a dead twice you are truly owning the weight. |
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Post by kgm on Sept 7, 2011 23:28:44 GMT -5
I don't believe they are a full ROM deadlift with a pause - I have seen some Sheiko plans where he distinguishes between pause deadlifts and deadlifts to knees. I would say you should pause at your weak point. From what I understand you are half right. He does make a distinction between pauses and to knees but the routines are to be paused. I think there is a lot of lose in translation. I would think a lift just to the knees (not full ROM) would use a higher percentage.(?) |
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Post by benburgess on Sept 8, 2011 3:52:15 GMT -5
according to wade hooper who stated that he was told this by sheiko himself, the pulls to knees are meant to be paused at the knee and then finished. Also when you get good at pausing below your knee your are supposed to add a second pause during the lift. In Sheikos book he lists various pull-to-knee type excersises with pauses at different heights and with 1,2 an (IIRC) even 3 pauses |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 14:40:27 GMT -5
I wish the pulls to knees issue was a little clearer. I do know that I like the pause. It helps me a lot with position control. The question is if I should lock out after the pause or just lower it. On one hand locking it out is a lot harder, and I might have more to gain by doing the harder variation of the movement. On the other hand I never have a hard time locking out my deadlifts and my rack pulls are always smooth, fast, and easy.
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Post by benburgess on Sept 10, 2011 8:32:50 GMT -5
Not locking out
Pros: ? ? ?
Cons: Doesnt train full ROM, doesnt train lockout, maybe reinforces the idea of not finishing the pull, easier.
Locking out
Pros: Harder, trains full ROM, trains lockout, forces you to slide hips through
Cons: ? ? ?
Its a no brainer IMO
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Post by kgm on Sept 10, 2011 17:48:20 GMT -5
Gonna just throw this out there, and no I don't have any experience in this. Mine is just hypothetical...Would you not be able to do more weight/reps if you don't lock out, and if you were wanting to focus on breaking the ground, as your weak point, could that be a good thing?
But back to what Joel said. When I compare the intensity of the deads to knees in the routine, not going full ROM would not be close to taxing.
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