Missing Sheiko Programs???

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hi,
im wondering if anyone knows why the sheiko programs start at #29 - 40? i mean, what /where is 1 - 28?
mark

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number 29 and so on DOES NOT EXIST for Sheiko. These are just a way to call them used by Eric Talmant or Dave Bates (i dont know exacly).

Sheiko programs appears on his book and on a web site.
29 and 37 are quite the same workout (the first of a group made by 30,31,32) originally called Discharger 1, 2, 3, and competition discharger.
Originally Sheiko wrote these program for very low level lifters. But they work very well also for more advansed.

Then there are some CMS training plans (2 on the book, and a lot for Viktoria Bedoinzhe on the old Irbis club website).

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Jan 1, 2010 11:47:12 GMT -5 @adogruzza said:

number 29 and so on DOES NOT EXIST for Sheiko. These are just a way to call them used by Eric Talmant or Dave Bates (i dont know exacly).

Sheiko programs appears on his book and on a web site.
29 and 37 are quite the same workout (the first of a group made by 30,31,32) originally called Discharger 1, 2, 3, and competition discharger.
Originally Sheiko wrote these program for very low level lifters. But they work very well also for more advansed.

Then there are some CMS training plans (2 on the book, and a lot for Viktoria Bedoinzhe on the old Irbis club website).

i have seen / read for years before i heardof eric / dave the numbers 29, etc., but thanks for your explanation, i understand what you mean. also, i wonder why then that the numbers 28, etc were chosen then, why not just use 1 - 2 - 3 - etc? the lifter Viktoria Bedoinzhe - can you direct me to that website / programs in question?
thanks, mark

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probably Eric "saved" already other plans with numbers before 29. Belive me, I know sheiko training before became famouse in USA and this numbers are a way to call them, but not original. Me too, now, I call them #29, #30 exetera.

For Bed. plans, now there is no more irbisclub website. I probably got some of them in original language.

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Jan 2, 2010 1:17:53 GMT -5 @adogruzza said:

probably Eric "saved" already other plans with numbers before 29. Belive me, I know sheiko training before became famouse in USA and this numbers are a way to call them, but not original. Me too, now, I call them #29, #30 exetera.

For Bed. plans, now there is no more irbisclub website. I probably got some of them in original language.

hi,

thanks. do you still have some of the original language ones? i have his book, with the novice - msic templates. if the original language ones you mentioned are in his book. no need to.

what country are you from?

regards,

mark

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for reference:
www.irbisclub.ru/train.htm

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Irbisclub is again "online"??

The the plan i'm speaking of are the one under "KMC" (cyrillic translation of CMS) in this website. They are different from the book. There is a 6 mouth training periodization. Very helpfull.
But now i cannot open the files in the russian webpage!!!

I came from Italy. I

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Jan 2, 2010 9:10:06 GMT -5 @adogruzza said:

Irbisclub is again "online"??

The the plan i'm speaking of are the one under "KMC" (cyrillic translation of CMS) in this website. They are different from the book. There is a 6 mouth training periodization. Very helpfull.
But now i cannot open the files in the russian webpage!!!

I came from Italy. I

i actually saw this page too, but the programs would open up for me either.

i think you were the person about a year ago that i sent andrey balyiev's programs to for translation to english afer originally getting them from nick zhukov, correct?

mark

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Try entering the url into this website

web.archive.org/collections/web.html

It might help you cycle back to previous versions of the website

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cheers- thats brillant!

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Yes, I was in a greek island for my wedding trip when I found the program!!!!
Nice to meet you again!

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Jan 4, 2010 6:32:00 GMT -5 @adogruzza said:

Yes, I was in a greek island for my wedding trip when I found the program!!!!
Nice to meet you again!

yes, thats right. hw is your training going along? hows your results at your last competition?

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Ahh I'm not competing anymore, i'm just training my home town team. I've done this sammer raw italian bench press cup in 181 class where I made something like 325. (i'm not a champion). But i use a lot some ideas of the plans you pass me, above all with a guy who had incredible squat results in last italian cup (+ 65 lbs in 3 mounth in a already high level lifter).
Thake a look at Bedoinze training plans, they are very interesting! Above all for the lengh and the possibility of see how Sheiko periodize actually. (bad english, sorry)

[joeldibattista]

I can't seem to open any of the routines on that site?

[deathevocation]

The last one opens. I haven't checked it through the archive site though.

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If you go through the archive site, they are all out there - Quite a few different programs.