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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 16:28:51 GMT -5
I've read through the site and I have some experience with Sheiko training in the past, mostly the cms/ms prep program before I really knew much about the classifications and ratings.
I'm looking for some advice on where to start back into it as far as what programs to pick. I have a long "offseason" meaning I don't plan to compete until late fall/early winter.
A little background, I've been competing for a little over 2 years, I lifted at IPF worlds last year with a less than stellar performance haha. According to both the raw classification chart and the updated equipped rating chart I'm over the CMS rating, and close to the MS rating for my weight class. From what I've read I should stick with the cms/ms programming for now?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 17:53:11 GMT -5
How did the CMS/MS program work for you last time? I'm in the same boat, rating over CMS, but fairly new to Sheiko. I ran the 13 week program with good success, never felt like it was difficult to recover or that it was too much volume. I also am wondering if maybe the CMS/MS prep is a good choice. I know adogruzza has had some experience with this program, hoping he chimes as well as all others with experience.
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Post by davebates on Jul 12, 2009 14:50:27 GMT -5
I've read through the site and I have some experience with Sheiko training in the past, mostly the cms/ms prep program before I really knew much about the classifications and ratings. I'm looking for some advice on where to start back into it as far as what programs to pick. I have a long "offseason" meaning I don't plan to compete until late fall/early winter. A little background, I've been competing for a little over 2 years, I lifted at IPF worlds last year with a less than stellar performance haha. According to both the raw classification chart and the updated equipped rating chart I'm over the CMS rating, and close to the MS rating for my weight class. From what I've read I should stick with the cms/ms programming for now? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Evan,
How about for the "layoff period" you reduce the training days per week? I have some reduce volume programs that work well for most lifters. It would be 12 weeks long, Without your equipment would be the way to go while on "break". Just because your a higher classification, does not mean you need to do that amount of work to build your strength. Sometimes, less is better. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 9:23:01 GMT -5
Dave,
You are definitely correct, I recently had a 35kg total PR over the course of 8 weeks of training, by dropping my weekly training volume. If it's not a problem would you be able to send me over something you think would be suitable?
Another question, I spoke with a Ukrainian lifter at worlds, 100kg gold medalist Sergiy Pevnev who told me that they train in knee wraps year round from basically 70% on up and sheiko/modified versions of sheiko are the main lifting programs used. Have you heard of this before with the Russian lifters?
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Post by robwhite on Jul 13, 2009 9:59:20 GMT -5
Thats quite interesting RE the knee wraps. I like to train raw these days, but i know when i used to put the knee wraps on - even loose - i used to get a big boost out of the hole.
I think the use of 'aids' like knee wraps and even a belt will somewhat reduce the the strain on the nervous system (for me, an 80% squat with the belt on is ALOT faster and less fatiguing than without), which might allow you to do the volume of Sheiko easier with less cumilative fatigue buildup.
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Post by davebates on Jul 13, 2009 13:23:26 GMT -5
Dave, You are definitely correct, I recently had a 35kg total PR over the course of 8 weeks of training, by dropping my weekly training volume. If it's not a problem would you be able to send me over something you think would be suitable? Another question, I spoke with a Ukrainian lifter at worlds, 100kg gold medalist Sergiy Pevnev who told me that they train in knee wraps year round from basically 70% on up and sheiko/modified versions of sheiko are the main lifting programs used. Have you heard of this before with the Russian lifters? Yes, of course. Many lifters I work with do that. Go to the thread 13wks with equipment (http://bmfsports.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=sheiko&action=display&thread=398&page=1) take a day and test your squat in wraps and go from there. This one should work well, If not, I'm in the process of testing more programs where the volume is only around 600 reps per month. I have no results yet to see if it builds strength or not. |
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Post by joeldibattista on Jul 13, 2009 21:08:27 GMT -5
Another question, I spoke with a Ukrainian lifter at worlds, 100kg gold medalist Sergiy Pevnev who told me that they train in knee wraps year round from basically 70% on up and sheiko/modified versions of sheiko are the main lifting programs used. Have you heard of this before with the Russian lifters? Hey Evan, I've heard that the Russians do this also (maybe it was from you and I got my wires crossed...). My training partner and I have been doing all our squatting >70% in wraps and I feel it works really well. You obviously increase the weight used, but I find in wraps I can take my suited stance which I think is beneficial for carryover. |
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