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Post by benburgess on Jun 27, 2009 12:14:48 GMT -5
I had the UK IPF Nationals today...
I got 3rd in the 82.5 kg class.
I lifted like a complete c*ck and got a pretty poor total by my standards with my best lift the squat being inexplicably DOWN on my last meet by 5kg.
Bench was not much better with a really strong opener but shirt issues on the 2nd and 3rd.
The only highlight was the pull with a 10kg pb for conventional pulling, I pulled to take 3rd and left a bit in the tank taking just what i needed to place.
Have to say i am right p*ssed off with the sq I done 95% in the skills test and it flew up, it felt like i had LOADS left but there was just nowt there on the day today, I ended up with 95% of my max no excuses i wasnt strong enough.
Oh well hey ho onwards and upwards.
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Post by joeldibattista on Jun 27, 2009 20:58:48 GMT -5
Not the result you wanted Benny, but third in your first Nats is a great result. Did nerves have anything to do with it? Was it at that massive sports centre in Brum where the Masters were, where loaded? I'd brick myself on that stage!
Nice pull too.
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Post by benburgess on Jun 28, 2009 2:39:10 GMT -5
Not the result you wanted Benny, but third in your first Nats is a great result. Did nerves have anything to do with it? Was it at that massive sports centre in Brum where the Masters were, where loaded? I'd brick myself on that stage! Nice pull too. A bit nervous on the squat...I ended up rushing the last warmup and going straight on stage....yeah, they've actually knocked down and re-built that place but the same deal, big scoreboard, lighting etc. But really, not a big nerves thing, everything just felt heavy on sq. |
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Post by spsfw on Jun 28, 2009 2:47:05 GMT -5
3rd is still great Ben...congrats.
Do you have any ideas about what happened between skills assessment and comp day?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2009 6:35:13 GMT -5
Hey Ben, I was there, def a nice effort on the last pull! I was going to find you after and say hi but I couldn't find you and had to get off to work.... I'd blame the fire alarm for that last squat. Put everyone off.  Lots of people were having benching/shirt issues. Seems to be the way... |
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Post by benburgess on Jun 29, 2009 13:12:01 GMT -5
3rd is still great Ben...congrats. Do you have any ideas about what happened between skills assessment and comp day? No. This is what is doing my head in. 95% on skills test day way EASY and I had at least 10kg more in there. 95% on the day was hard, and was all i ended up with on the board. Weight cut went perfect (and was very small anyway), I felt rested, my gear all fit perfectly, i just somehow managed to get 10% weaker in 3 weeks. What's really annoying me is usually you know how or why something went wrong or you have something you know you can change next time to get a better result....Everything went perfect on this one I was just a lot weaker on the day than at my skills test. So in theory I wouldnt change owt, so next time will I have another perfect build up and magically be weaker on the day? Frustrating. |
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Post by benburgess on Jun 29, 2009 13:14:07 GMT -5
Hey Ben, I was there, def a nice effort on the last pull! I was going to find you after and say hi but I couldn't find you and had to get off to work.... I'd blame the fire alarm for that last squat. Put everyone off. Lots of people were having benching/shirt issues. Seems to be the way... Damn, yeah it would have been nice to say Hi mark oh well hey ho. Id love to say the fire alarm put me off but to be honest the extra 5mins rest between 2nd and 3rd attempts did me good - i came back in confident i'd nail the 3rd easy its just my brain forgot to tell my legs that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2009 18:18:13 GMT -5
Perhaps the Sheiko style deload is a little too much for you, meaning its too much of a deload rather than too much work. At the moment I have a medium stress/high intensity week 2 weeks out then a deload the week before which still involves squat/bench/dead every session for 3 sessions, it just drops in intensity as we go. Then again I'm not as strong as you so what I have to say may/may not be valid for you.
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Post by spsfw on Jun 30, 2009 18:43:39 GMT -5
I have done the 9 week program twice raw and once equipped. I was thinking that the peak worked really well for me, then I remembered that the two raw cycles I ran I tested by maxes a day early. I wonder if a day could make a difference? What I am getting at is based on my own experiences I have felt a little better when I shortened by deload by a day. I wonder if there is room here to consider individualised deloads that allow for different rates of recovery etc?
How has the deload worked for you in the past?
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Post by benburgess on Jul 1, 2009 3:51:36 GMT -5
Maybe you're right guys...
I definately didnt feel overtrained. To be honest I didnt feel that UNDERtrained either, but I guess the point is that I was much stronger at having only 1 light session then hitting top weights (i.e. the skills test week) then after having a long steady downwards taper (i.e. at the meet).
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Post by robwhite on Jul 1, 2009 6:58:35 GMT -5
Hi Ben, sorry to hear you werent happy with your result. I went to the Birmingham Champioships last year and you are lifting in an a wide open arena with alot of eyes staring at you. I would cack myself on there. But maybe you are right - the last week or so of the peaking cycle wasnt intense enough to maintain peak strength. I found this out the first time i ran Daves cycle - my Skills Evaluation went really well, but when i actually tested my maxes a few weeks later i didnt feel as strong going into it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 8:19:27 GMT -5
Maybe you aren't doing enough volume in your prep cycles for your current recovery levels. If you don't accumulate much fatigue in the prep period, you don't require much of a taper.
Kelly Baggett in his article on the dual factor theory talks about how fitness gains last twice as long as any fatigue that has accumulated. This is the reason why I think there may be more of a problem in the prep period than the competition cycle.
One thing I don't understand is using the same competition cycle regardless of the number of prep cycles that were completed. If you run one prep cycle you've accumulated far less fatigue than running 3 prep cycles prior to the comp cycle as an example.
One way or another I'm sure you'll get things figured out soon.
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Post by benburgess on Jul 3, 2009 16:03:04 GMT -5
thank you for all your imput lads.
I guess the fact that i were better at the Skills Test than at the meet means i was more likely undercooked rather than overcooked at the meet to borrow a cricket analagy.
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