Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2010 14:51:17 GMT -5
I am one of those people that reads anything I can get on training. Normally this would be good but for me it tends to be a problem in that I am always second guessing my training and I am always trying to combine things. Anyway, I recently trained a young lady for the Special Olympics with a lot of help from Dave Bates. She did very well taking silver in both the bench and deadlift and won gold for her total. Throughout that process and through a lot of reading I have come to the realization that the Sheiko programs are basically programs for specific lifters that Mr. Sheiko had developed and not neccesarily programs meant for the masses(although they tend to work for a large number of lifters). The science behind the development of the programs may be standard but are adjusted for each lifter(I think).
On the other hand, anyone who says that Louie Simmons doesn't know how to develop champions would be an idiot in my opinion. Through reading a lot of his articles I noticed that he refers to Prilipen's chart quite a bit. The thing is that his training methods tend to focus on the extremes of the table for the competition lifts(or variations) i.e. Max Effort and Dynamic Effort.
I guess the vanity in me likes the WSB stuff due tot he assistance work. Aside from a few of the fat guys, most of the guys who train this way tend to be more muscular that the Sheiko guys(This is only based on the experiences I have had). As for my own training, I don't feel that I get much from DE work and the Max Effort work doesn't really carry over much to my competition lifts.
This is where I think a combination of the two programs would work. I don't think it would be rational to do a Sheiko program and then foloow up with typical WSB assistance work. That would cause overtraining rather quickly. What I am suggesting is that the Main exercises would be the competition lifts using Sheiko percentages and then follow up with assistnce work as usual with the WSB programming.
What I do not understand is, how would someone do this? If I were to train bench twice per week and squat/Dl twice per week with the squats done on one day and deads done on another how would someone go about setting up the percentages?
On the other hand, anyone who says that Louie Simmons doesn't know how to develop champions would be an idiot in my opinion. Through reading a lot of his articles I noticed that he refers to Prilipen's chart quite a bit. The thing is that his training methods tend to focus on the extremes of the table for the competition lifts(or variations) i.e. Max Effort and Dynamic Effort.
I guess the vanity in me likes the WSB stuff due tot he assistance work. Aside from a few of the fat guys, most of the guys who train this way tend to be more muscular that the Sheiko guys(This is only based on the experiences I have had). As for my own training, I don't feel that I get much from DE work and the Max Effort work doesn't really carry over much to my competition lifts.
This is where I think a combination of the two programs would work. I don't think it would be rational to do a Sheiko program and then foloow up with typical WSB assistance work. That would cause overtraining rather quickly. What I am suggesting is that the Main exercises would be the competition lifts using Sheiko percentages and then follow up with assistnce work as usual with the WSB programming.
What I do not understand is, how would someone do this? If I were to train bench twice per week and squat/Dl twice per week with the squats done on one day and deads done on another how would someone go about setting up the percentages?