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Post by robwhite on Apr 9, 2009 16:33:34 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this Eric. Well, the HPA Axis is certainly extremely important to health, and performance (pops up alot in strength athlete and bodybuilding circles) and a great choice for the new FHC. Can you reveal if the method for this FHC is based upon anyone in particulars prior work, or is it an entirely novel HealthExcel construct? Can you possibly indicate how it will be tested for?
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Post by robwhite on Apr 9, 2009 12:21:08 GMT -5
Hi Eric,
I have been under alot of mental duress lately with trying to stop my new property falling apart, trying to change jobs, and getting used to the strain of Sheiko training. I've recently noticed that i've been showing symptoms of B-Overtraining, such as:
Blood pressure: slight increase Coordination: impaired, with increased reaction time Bodymass: decreased Endurance: tendency to tire easily Sleep requirements: increased Resting pulse: elevated Body temperature: slightly increased
Appetite: reduced Metabolism: altered, with increased tendency to sweat; abnormally increased breathing rate under stress
General muscle soreness: mild to pronounced, with tendency to muscle stiffness and pain
General resistance: tendency to headaches, colds, fever blisters; prolonged recuperation
Recovery time: increased
Psychological changes: nervousness, poor motivation, inner unease, mild depression
From Thomas Kurz book, he cites nutriton modailites to deal with B-Overtraining as being - increased unprocessed fruits, veggies, and carbs, lighter meats, and less fat, to give the sympathetic nervous system a rest and boost the parasympathetic.
During my MT assessment, i was shown to be a Parasympathetic Dominant (and, interestingly and somewhat paradoxically, Thyroid Type, which could correlate with mild HYPERthyroidism in people with B-Overtraining), and have been eating a diet, and taking MT supplements, to stimulate my sympathetic system.
I'm a bit confused about how to resolve the contradictions between trying to eat my prescribed MT diet, and resolving my B-Overtraining state by giving my parasympathetic ANS a rest.
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Post by robwhite on Apr 9, 2009 12:17:00 GMT -5
Jared - The main thing i have been doing recently is trying to find the original sources of information that the MT FHC's are based upon, and understand the fundamentals of them. I've also been looking at how more recent persons have been adapting this original work in their own systems, which HealthExcel appears to hold in high regard. For example, Dr Laura Power has recently amalgamated Dr Abravanel's Endocrine / Body Type work, and Peter D' Adamo's Blood Type work (and legetimised it significantly), and updated them with her findings into a more effective system IMO. The same goes for Guy Schenker, who i'm reading up on at the moment, who amalgamated Dr Revici's work on fatty acids/sterols balance, Dr Kelley's work on ANS dominance, and Dr Watsons work on carbo-oxidation balance, into his own Nutri-Spec system which also adds electrolyte / fluid balance and Acid/Alkaline Balance into the mix. See the reference list at the bottom of this page: www.healthexcel.com/docs/_core1.htmlEric - Great stuff. Look forward to it.
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Post by robwhite on Apr 9, 2009 9:03:30 GMT -5
Interesting read Eric, esp. concerning the resultant toxic coumpunds it produces. In the UK its fairly easy to avoid irradiated food if you eat free-range and organic, but i understand irradiating food is much more widespread in the US.
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Post by robwhite on Apr 9, 2009 8:57:40 GMT -5
Yeah, i have heard that many 'Type A's' do well on a high protein, high meat diet. I have looked at Dr Power's stuff after you mentioned her to me a while back, and she does seem to show much more verifiable immune response correlations between' avoid' foods / drinks, and blood types, and doesnt dip into the realms of conjecture like 90% of Peter D'Adamo's observations do. Rather than do away with the blood type FHC, it would be good if blood type stayed as a 'minor' FHC that is still considered with MT clients, revised to use Dr Power's clinical correlations between blood type and serum immune responses instead, as from what i've read on her site, there are definate health implications to consuming foods that react strongly with a client's blood type. I notice she also found differences in the serum immune reactions as the subjects aged, and also between gender, so if blood type FHC recommendations could consider that it would be even more valuable. I also noticed that Dr Power and Dr Nardi's work on Body / Endocrine Types has produced a more in-depth analysis of the Endocrine FHC, resulting in a Dominant Endocrine Type, and also with Secondary type characteristics. Again, updating the Endocrine Type FHC from Dr Abravanel's original system to take account of Dr Power and Dr Nardi's findings would be useful. Totally agree that metabolic oxidation rates and ANS imbalances are still the key factors. Still interested to hear what the 11th FHC ....
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Post by robwhite on Apr 8, 2009 8:25:25 GMT -5
Great. I emailed you Eric. Would love it for Mr Wolcott to come out with an expanded 2nd Edition book.
EDIT: Just recieved the extra documents. Some excellent new stuff there!
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Post by robwhite on Apr 8, 2009 7:48:18 GMT -5
An 11th FHC? Intriguing.
So HealthExcel are doing away with blood type as a FHC all together? Interesting. I can understand why they are replacing them with proper IgE testing, as this will be far more accurate and personalised. I remember Poliquin stating that MT needs use more clinical tests tlike these to make it more accepted, although i think he recommended using the ION Panel test. However, a major downside is the cost of getting these kind of tests done may make Metabolic Typing prohibatively expensive for some.
Personally i think the Constitutional Elements FHC is another that should be done away with, because it is clearly the least scientifically-verifiable, and it seems the only element of that FHC that IS verifiable is the 'body type' aspect of it, which is overlapping into the Endocrine Type FHC
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Post by robwhite on Apr 7, 2009 8:34:12 GMT -5
I noticed on the Core Premise part of the HealthExcel site www.healthexcel.com/docs/_core1.html they have added a 10th FHC - Neurotransmitter Imbalance. In Mr Wolcotts original MT book there was only 9 FHC's - nice to see the system is keeping updated with new findings (talking of keeping it updated, i really feel the Blood Type FHC should be updated to be based upon Dr Laura Powers work instead of D' Adamo's, as i get the impression Mr Wolcott feels her work is more scientifically credible, and many others would agree). Eric, i presume this is based upon the Neurogistics system of analysis you discussed here asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=91062&tid= . How important is this FHC in relation to the others?
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Post by robwhite on Apr 6, 2009 11:44:56 GMT -5
Jared, for each of the Fundamental Homeostatic Controls (9 in total i think), there are a number of reference texts you can read up on to see how that FHC has developed in its current form the way it is used in MT. For nearly all of the FHCs there is, i have found pretty convinving empirical evidence presented in the texts that discuss them. Mr Wolcotts book does provide a fairly good reference list for these texts.
I have to admit i feel that Mr Wolcotts book should have been much larger, and covered most of the FHC's in at least some basic detail, instead of just focussing on the autonomic nervous system and cellular oxidation FHC's. However, it does do quite a good job at explained the overall foundation of how MT hangs together. To understand MT in any detail, i think you need to do a significant amount of research on each of the FHCs to see how it all hangs together. This is what i am doing on and off at the moment.
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Post by robwhite on Apr 6, 2009 11:30:05 GMT -5
Could 'rise on bars' be dips? Damn, i wish someone could properly translate these
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Post by robwhite on Apr 2, 2009 11:16:11 GMT -5
How many folks out their use hook grip when deadlifting? How do you find it - helpful or not?
I recently started using it again, and despite it causing very painful compression pain in my thumbs, and ripping a few layers of skin off my palms, it seems to massively improve my grip and ability to stay tight in the upper back. I tried it whilst pulling 80% for trebles the other day, and it definately seemed to improve my lifts.
I take it its legal in most feds to pull this way?
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Post by robwhite on Apr 2, 2009 8:49:07 GMT -5
Great! Was considering getting my first batch of multi-com. However, i'm living in the UK, so i'm not sure about import and postage issues.
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Post by robwhite on Apr 2, 2009 8:45:16 GMT -5
Thanks Eric. So, the preperation is pretty much the same as when handling any other meat / fish. I would say i'm at the medium-rare to rare stage with cooking my meat and fish.
i recently tried some raw tuna seasoned with some seasalt and ginger puree, which was delicious, and also some raw New Zealand lambs liver which made me feel extremely vitalised abotu 30 mins after eating it.
Organic meat is a often a bit out of my budget, but i get New Zealand lamb meat and offal, which, from what i understand is free-range and pretty much organic in many respects. Unfortunately its frozen, but i have read that the freezing process is a good thing, because it kills parasites?
I also get sprats, which i have read have a very low contaminant load, and are high in omega 3's and purines, which is great for a parasympathetic like me.
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Post by robwhite on Apr 2, 2009 8:37:19 GMT -5
Ok. Thanks Eric, i think i may have found a source in the UK for Pharmax fish oil at a reasonable price ....
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Post by robwhite on Apr 1, 2009 12:00:46 GMT -5
Hi Eric,
from your previous posts on EliteFTS, i get the idea that you are a row food enthusiast, inc. raw meat, fish, and poultry. I've recently been getting used to cooking most of my food (except grains and pulses) less and less, to the point where it is mostly just warmed-through.
I want to move to the next stage and try raw meat, offal, and fish (i dont really eat poultry as it doesnt do much for me). Can you give any pointers on how to prepare animal products raw so they are safe to eat?
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Post by robwhite on Mar 31, 2009 5:58:07 GMT -5
Thanks for this great piece of info Eric. I have been wary about the quality of oil supplements ever since reading Udo Erasmus’s Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill, which exposed the extend of dangerous and damaging processing that occurs in these products. I think the attack on Mercola is a bit unwarranted - at least the guy has the balls to hold his hands up and say ' i made a mistake in my recommendations'. There are alot of people in the alternative health industry that havent got the guts to do that. I can quite believe that there are some very unhealthy processing methods used in fish oil products to get unnaturally high levels of EPA and DHA, and I read on the Weston A Price Foundation website a while back about the problems with cod liver oil processing, but I’m not convinced that all krill oil has dangerous levels of arsenic. For example, the Neptune brand contains < 0.1 mg/kg inorganic arsenic, and < 10 mg/kg organic arsenic. I have read several scientifically supported arguments that ORGANIC arsenic has relatively low levels of toxicity at the levels found in kelp, seaweed, and seafood, inc. krill, and it is the INorganic form of arsenic that is the real danger. This review also suggests the errors in only looking at TOTAL arsenic levels in such foods, rather than organic vs inorganic www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2137100 . I would love to try the Pharmax or Seroyal fish oil products that David recommends, but their availability in the UK is scarce and expensive, and for the time being I will probably stick to the Neptune Krill Oil, which I am able to source at a reasonable price and freely in the UK. However, if the Pharmax or Seroyal fish oil products becoming more available in the UK I will definitely try them.
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Post by robwhite on Mar 30, 2009 6:07:58 GMT -5
OK, thans Eric. I used to use glutamine alot with good results post-workout, but i will also dabble with it pre-GPP and see what happens.
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Post by robwhite on Mar 26, 2009 11:12:36 GMT -5
Eric, how would you rate glutamine as a useful supplement for parasympathetic dominant athletes? I understand that there is a high rate of conversion to glutamic acid, which is a stimulant for the sympathetic ANS, so i'm guessing it would be something useful for such individuals. In my personal experience its also very effective for recovery, for both reducing DOMS, and keeping muscle glycogen stores adequate.
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Post by robwhite on Mar 26, 2009 11:06:22 GMT -5
Mark, are you parasympathetic dominant, or fast oxidative dominant? You dont state wether oxidation or ANS is your dominance factor.
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Post by robwhite on Mar 26, 2009 11:00:35 GMT -5
Excellent! Been waiting a while for this board to open up. Eric, i dont suppose you could re-post a summary of some of the info you posted at ELiteFTS on here? There was so much useful info you put on there, esp. with regards to athletes using MT in conjunction with hard training.
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